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All the god tiers. by Akumeoi All the god tiers. by Akumeoi
ALL OF THEM.

Yep. What the title says.



Now, I'm sure you're wondering where the session's hero of time went. Well... [link]
links to individual pictures:
Fluttershy (Sylph of Rage) - [link]
Rarity (Thief of Space) - [link]
Rainbow Dash (Knight of Breath) - [link]
Twilight Sparkle (Mage of Light) - [link]
Spike (Heir of Blood) - [link]
Applejack (Maid of Heart) - [link]
Pinkie Pie (Rogue of Life) - [link]
And, as usual, a link to the explanation - [link]
And here is this picture on tumblr: [link]
note: IF THIS PICTURE LOOKS SQUASHED TO YOU, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE ADD BANNER AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE. SORRY. PLEASE FULL-VIEW IT.
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PurplePony42 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Oh also element of generosity is the THEIF of space
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013  Student General Artist
Hey man, I didn't pick these god tiers, I just illustrated them. The explanation as to WHY they are what they are is provided through a link in the description. I'm sorry you don't like them, but there's no need to be disdainful about it.
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PurplePony42 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Oh dang it looks amazing any way
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2013  Student General Artist
Thank you :)
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PurplePony42 Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
No prob
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PurplePony42 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Ok ok let me get this straight fluttershy... And the sylph of... Rage... Oh the irony! Dave would be so proud
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KidMudkip Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
....but why ya pick those for them :/ i can only see Dash and Twi as those god tiers
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2013  Student General Artist
if you follow the link in the description, you can read a really nice explanation about everypony!! :D
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KidMudkip Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
kk
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GeminiWolf Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
hell yes.

hell.

fucking.

YES.
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MyTinyColorfulMind Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Void is missing
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Student General Artist
Void isn't actually needed for a complete session, so they should be fine. The essentials are Time, Light, and Space. There are 12 aspects anyway, so if you want to list all the ones that are missing you can add Doom, Hope, and Mind.
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cronomatt Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013
Wouldn't Pinkie be of the Hope Class then?

And why is Applejack the hero of heart, that really confuses me. I read your blog, and that part didn't make much sense. What does the Heart class have to do with strength of heart? That could apply to any hero. The Heart class is defined by Soul connections and/or Soul splintering. Last I checked, Applejack is a simple gal and isn't that much into relationships or splintering one's soul. A Maid of Heart would act like a matchmaker. Applejack isn't anything like Nepeta, Meulin or Dirk, while she shares a great deal with John's heroic nature and Jane's aspect of living.
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Student General Artist
Ahhh, that's not actually my blog ^^;
I've submitted the part about Applejack to the dude who runs the blog, and we'll see if he has anything to say about that.
As for Pinkie, I think she is a good hero of life, and you can compare her to Feferi, who is also very bubbly and cheerful.
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cronomatt Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013
Oh I see. : ) Well, you two made an excellent list together that was surprisingly close to my own. Its nice to see there are other people who can analyize a class and aspect and match it with a characters personality.

I'm just not the sure on Pinkie with LIFE. Sure she'd make a GOOD hero of life, but its definitely not her defining attribute. The Heiress' were given the aspect of life because they had innate manipulation of it, both being immortal and extending life in others as adults. And we were shown VERY early on that Nanna 'Jane' Crocker was a life player, using her food powers to heal John in battle, constantly pestering people to eat and stay healthy. Pinkie Pie loves food, but she bakes for her job and most importantly to cheer people up. Applejack on the other hand takes pride on supporting Ponyville WITH her food. Pinkie's MAIN goal is to be a source of happiness and hope for Ponyville in its purest, most Caliborn can't tolerate it, form. Smile, smile, smile is a perfect example of performing her duties as the Bard of Hope...and considering how few success stories there are with Hope players, its a bit refreshing. Sure Feferi is bubbly and cheerful, but she wasn't exactly ACT as an inspiration to the group. She didn't have the will to keep everyone's courage up, while Pinkie does.

And above all else, the mark of a successful Hope player is a good sign for a group of heroes. Both troll universes were destroyed, while Jake is in a void universe that, once merged with the remains of the first universe, can be a successful session.

As for Spike...I just haven't figured him out yet. His class attribute is obvious, he is definitley a Page. He knows little of what he's capable of, has the idiot ball a lot when young, is used to getting ordered around, but has a lot of potential. Its the aspect I'm having trouble figuring out.

Life? No.

Space? No.

Hope? Not really.

Time? No connection there.

Rage? It exists within him but its more akin to wickedness and greed, a part that he rejects.

Doom? No

Light? Not really, luck and solutions aren't exactly his forte.

Heart? He's got a crush and thinks about romance, but there's more too him then that. He doesn't overvalue the development of others souls through romance or splintering

Blood? Blood is unity under equality. While I guess he's in the same boat as Karkat and Kankri, being a mutant among trolls and being a dragon among ponies, I'm not sure that's ever been a thing for him

Breath? Hmm...there is something there. We can't count out the idea that Spike is the potential success story of the Page of Breath while Tavros is the failure story. But I think deep down Spike is too much of a realist even at his age to be a natural adventurer.

Void? Hmmm....maybe. He has little knowledge about himself, there is a void in his life that he longs to fill (nurture: Rarity, Nature: Gold), has little talent at first but he is slowly building himself up from that, whether he wants to be a mean dragon or a honorable dragon.
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Student General Artist
Well, keep in mind that Feferi didn't necessarily fulfill the role she was supposed to play. So it's possible that Pinkie is still a life player. But, at the same time, you have a pretty strong argument. You already know why I think Pinkie is a life player, so I don't really think I need to reiterate. Either you or I could be right; we aren't really going to know unless Andrew Hussie himself decides to start handing out titles to MLP characters.

As for Spike, I intepreted Blood as loyalty, which really makes sense if you consider the fact that Karkat and Kankri were both supposed to be the leaders of their groups. Blood is like the bonds that are supposed to tie people together, because for a team to work EVERYONE has to be tied to the leader. Spike is pretty darn loyal. He sticks to his friends like glue. Even when he went away to see what it was like to be a "real" dragon, he didn't forget them, and then in the end went back to them of his own accord (good thing they weren't very far away, ehehe). It all depends on how you see blood, and I must admit I think "unity under equality" is a little bit too specific for something like a Sburb/Sgrub title. A game that can be played by any species in the universe should be more about broad concepts such as loyalty simply because it has to adapt to any group of players.

Actually, I'm not sure I agree with your interpretation of Heart either, because I'm really not getting anything about "soul splintering" from it. That really just makes me think of Voldemort, sorry ^^;
I probably should have asked you about that originally but I didn't think of it until just now.

I would also like to add, on a completely frivolous note, that Pinkie Pie looks really great in the colours of a life player XD
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cronomatt Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013
Actually, Feferi fulfilled her role perfectly for a non-godtier. She introduced the method of bringing one back to life with their dream self, which became important knowledge throughout the entire universe chain.

Once he has a break between finishing his comic to working on the game story, he'll probobly have the time to be asked a lot of pop culture questions relating to Homestuck.

Jake:" GT: Hope to me is all about believing in stuff.
GT: If you believe in stuff then everything feels like its going to turn out ok.
GT: And if you believe in stuff with enough gusto i dare say it imbues that stuff with a pinch more chutzpah. Even the fake stuff!
GT: And then if you keep an open mind and adventurous spirit, that chutzpah flows directly into your heart, and thats when YOU have the power.
GT: So i think if hope grants one the power to smite villainy and vanquish hooligans thats probably where it comes from!"

This is why I chose Pinkie for hope. As Jake is the only hope player who embraces his aspect, Pinkie matches this description to an absolute Tee.

Well, Kankri was a spiritual leader. He made it clear he never took actual control over the group, and was more into unifying their hearts as he was a mutant. Like I said, Blood is a definite possibility for Spike. Yeah, I guess the interpretation of a Page of Blood is that he's a learner who integrates himself well within his friends while slowly learning little by little about himself.

Definitely not the Heir of Blood like suggested, no, no, that would imply he was unity incarnate. Spike is hardly that.

But yeah, Page of Blood sounds perfect. Fits his profile, and one could say that the passive nature of his untapped class is what allows Spike to be accepted wherever he goes, despite being the only domesticated dragon ever.

I sort of found the aspects of Doom, Blood and Rage to be species specific. Seeing into the future, passifying bad blood between race blood color, and an insatiable will to murder. A dragon among ponies would have serious need of this aspect, and Rage is something Pegasi inherently have to at least some ancestral level. (they were conquerors a thousand years ago)

Oh, when I mentioned soul splintering, I was ONLY talking about the most destructive case of a Heart player, Dirk of the Prince 'destroyer' class. Most Heart players are into Soul connections, and none of the Mane 6 are really matchmakers.
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013  Student General Artist
He replied, and he wasn't very nice about it.
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Student General Artist
Hussie? Taking a break? Haha, that's a good one xD
Again, I think Pinkie would be good at either role. If all else fails we can always say she's the Rogue of Parties and leave it at that.

As for the Page/Heir deal, I think "unity incarnate" would be better for a Lord of Blood, not an Heir. To me, an Heir is someone who has a large amount of whatever their aspect is, and who learns slowly how to use it, whereas a Page would probably not realise that their aspects actually fits them until they do something impressive with it. That's why John learned to use breath early in his story, but Tavros never really mastered it. Spike has a lot of loyalty even at this early stage, but he isn't often pushed to use it.

That's an interesting point about the species thing, but again, I think that Sburb is supposed to be accessible to any (even?) number of players from any planet or species. It's possible that a certain species would be less likely to have players of a certain aspect, but doubtful that it would be completely impossible for them to exist. Sburb is all about information and possibilities, and for the maximum amount of possibilities to be available, there need to be as many kinds of players as possible. This also applies to the definitions of titles. For there to be as many possibilities as possible, titles and roles need to be able to be fulfilled in many different ways as possible.

I understand the soul splintering thing now, thank you. I don't think Heart is limited to matchmaking though, because of the statement I just made above about possibilities. Although it's true that the Leijons (I want to refer to them as sisters, lol) are both into matchmaking, I think that's a symptom of the what makes them Heart players, not the main reason that they are Hear players. Nepeta, for example, wasn't ever going to tell anyone her matches, which you could say means she was a bad Heart player. But I think that the shipping is more about understanding people, and that the role of a passive Heart player such as herself is to help people understand each other and themselves better. [This differs from a Mind player, who just needs to /predict/ what other people will do.]
We don't really know what Nepeta did during the session, but I suspect that she didn't fulfill her role as well as she could have due to being occupied with Equius for most of the time.

I hope this makes sense, because it's really late at night and I'm tired. So if I just contradicted myself or if I contradict myself later, I apologize. ^^;
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cronomatt Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013
Very nice. Before I found this, I made a very similar aspect chart.

Current Session:

Twilight Sparkle - Mage of Light

(Pretty self explanatory. The Mage class is an even more spell and power-oriented class then the witch, and usually is chosen with those with withdrawn and intelligent minds. Fortune is usually to the one who finds solutions to answers, and Twilight is an aspect of Light)

Rainbow Dash - Knight of Breath

(Also pretty self explanatory. Knights are cool and full of charisma. They can be jerks sometimes, but they are equally capable of incredible compassion. Work hard over talent is what separates them over the Thief class, even if they are equally strong willed and powerful, they have different methods to gaining that power. Thiefs generally act out more immoral then moral, even if their heroic nature can be same. The Breath is the only pure power, given to someone with adventure in their heart like a legendary hero. John stepped up to the idea of saving the earth that he forged his path without hesitation, and Rufioh became a robinhood like hero as the Summoner, and Tavros used the Skylark roleplay which was a weak but high benefit hero class

Pinkie Pie - Bard of Hope

(Ironic that the one that this is given to is the most worthless person Cronus, but while he is a failure, Pinkie Pie is a true success story. She is an obvious Bard due to her Capricious bi-polar nature, her nature for song and dance and antics, and ability to do impossible things cause she is basically a clown, and clowns equal miracles. Gamzee can switch from nice to murderous, Cronus can switch from sly to ruthless, and Pinkie Pie can switch from Cheerful to Hopelessness. Cronus became a complete failure as a bard of hope after giving up on the hope that miracles/magic was real, making him the most worthless at his job. Even breaking the 4th wall, for she and Gamzee is somehow selfaware of many things she can't know, but can't do this directly like a Seer can. Hope is what she embodies most, as she is the guiding light of hope for her entire town.)

Applejack - Heir of Life

(This is an interesting one. The Heir is someone very simple minded but not exactly dim and slow like a Page can be. They are pretty much set in their ways and action and heroism come naturally to them as breathing. The players of life love of food, cooking and having a very simple life, even Meenah had some inclination to bake( and didn't want to be the Heiress as a younger girl). That doesn't apply to Pinkie Pie cause baking's just part of her job, while Pinkie Pie's way of life if doing parties and making others happy. Applejack's farm is her life, and she sort of reflects John's simplistic view of heroism and Jane's inclination to good Crocker food legacy and simple Southern living)

Rarity - Maid of Space

(While the Thief aspect might apply to her discorded self, the active class, the passive class of the Maid Rarity's more normal supportive nature. The Maid uses the aspect, but not as a weapon. She is very female oriented to her identity whether intentionally or unintentionally, and is not very aggressive until crossed. The Space aspect is a bit obvious. Very detail oriented, knows the patchwork of space like the patchwork of a fine dress.)

Fluttershy - Rogue of Rage

(While a healer might seem her type, she is not an analytical healer who fears very little. A slpyh seeks out people and tries to heal them, while a a rogue is a timid hero who steals that which is its aspect by accident. Roxy's cheerfulness helps steal the void in her friends lives even while very lonely, as explained by Dirk and shown how she would feed the innocents the same why Fluttershy would help animals. Nepeta's steals the love and attention from anyone around her by being the nicest member of the group, and Rufioh would steal the breath away from all those around him, making Meenah the only person not to hit on him. Fluttershy is timid but her 'were we argueing? I'm sorry." is not akin to a foreword thinking Slyph, but a passive Rogue who steals the rage out of everyone around her. Of course, just because it is passive doesn't mean it doesn't effect themselves after a while. Nepeta can lose heart after a while, Roxy can succumb to her void of friends, and Rufioh can lose his spark for heroism)

Previous Session:

Celestia - Muse of Light
Luna - Muse of Void
Sombra - Lord of Rage
Discord - Lord of Space
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Student General Artist
What about Derpy? :3

Pretty solid reasoning. I like Celestia's and Luna's titles. Discord as a Lord of Space is positively terrifying. XD
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InvestigatorGray Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Those make sense, but bard is purely a male class. Otherwise, that works.
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cronomatt Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
There's no other class that would fit her obfuscating and miraculous ways, so I'm pretty sure the Bard class can have player without the codpiece. :D

I mean I doubt Kankri's seer outfit would of been a dress like Rose's. XD
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InvestigatorGray Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Eh, okay, but she could also be a Maid, like having complete control over her aspect, but using it non-violently.
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cronomatt Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013
Then her personality wouldn't match her class at all. None of the Maids act like reality obfuscating clowns. And she doesn't have complete control over it as much as she does it without thinking...i.e...miracles.
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InvestigatorGray Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
mIrAcLeS...
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InvestigatorGray Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Ooh, I love these! I saw another one in a video, I can't remember what, but it was these:

Twilight: Witch of Time (haha that's Damara)
Pinkie Pie: Seer of Space (get it? because she broke the fourth wall!)
Applejack: Rogue of Life
Fluttershy: Maid of Heart
Rarity: Sylph of Void
Rainbow Dash: Thief of Breath

Both your's and this make sense.
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cronomatt Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013
Very nice. Before I found this, I made a very similar aspect chart.

Current Session:

Twilight Sparkle - Mage of Light

(Pretty self explanatory. The Mage class is an even more spell and power-oriented class then the Witch, and usually is chosen with those with withdrawn and intelligent minds. Witch's like Jade, Feferi and Damara are very foreword. Fortune is usually to the one who finds solutions to answers, and Twilight is an aspect of Light. Time is not an aspect she handled very well when she tried, and even Gamzee can use time wheels)

Rainbow Dash - Knight of Breath

(Also pretty self explanatory. Knights are cool and full of charisma. They can be jerks sometimes, but they are equally capable of incredible compassion. Work hard over talent is what separates them over the Thief class, even if they are equally strong willed and powerful, they have different methods to gaining that power. Thiefs generally act out more immoral then moral, even if their heroic nature can be same. A Thief doens't have the ability to lead a group as best as a Knight, which proves RD as a knight when all the recruits saluted her. The Breath is the only pure power, given to someone with adventure in their heart like a legendary hero. John stepped up to the idea of saving the earth that he forged his path without hesitation, and Rufioh became a robinhood like hero as the Summoner, and Tavros used the Skylark roleplay which was a weak but high benefit hero class

Pinkie Pie - Bard of Hope

(Ironic that the one that this is given to is the most worthless person Cronus, but while he is a failure, Pinkie Pie is a true success story. She is an obvious Bard due to her Capricious bi-polar nature, her nature for song and dance and antics, and ability to do impossible things cause she is basically a clown, and clowns equal miracles. Gamzee can switch from nice to murderous, Cronus can switch from sly to ruthless, and Pinkie Pie can switch from Cheerful to Hopelessness. Cronus became a complete failure as a bard of hope after giving up on the hope that miracles/magic was real, making him the most worthless at his job. Even breaking the 4th wall, for she and Gamzee is somehow selfaware of many things she can't know, but can't do this directly like a Seer can. Hope is what she embodies most, as she is the guiding light of hope for her entire town.)

Applejack - Heir of Life

(This is an interesting one. The Heir is someone very simple minded but not exactly dim and slow like a Page can be. They are pretty much set in their ways and action and heroism come naturally to them as breathing. The players of life love of food, cooking and having a very simple life, even Meenah had some inclination to bake( and didn't want to be the Heiress as a younger girl). That doesn't apply to Pinkie Pie cause baking's just part of her job, while Pinkie Pie's way of life if doing parties and making others happy. Applejack's farm is her life, and she sort of reflects John's simplistic view of heroism and Jane's inclination to good Crocker food legacy and simple Southern living)

Rarity - Maid of Space

(The Maid uses the aspect, but not as a weapon. She is very female oriented to her identity whether intentionally or unintentionally, and is not very aggressive until crossed. The Space aspect is a bit obvious. Very detail oriented, knows the patchwork of space like the patchwork of a fine dress.)

Fluttershy - Rogue of Rage

(While a maid might seem her type, she is not a loyal servent of a higher power who uses powers without fear but not in an aggresive manner. A rogue is a timid hero who steals that which is its aspect by accident. Roxy's cheerfulness helps steal the void in her friends lives even while very lonely, as explained by Dirk and shown how she would feed the innocents the same why Fluttershy would help animals. Nepeta's steals the love and attention from anyone around her by being the nicest member of the group, and Rufioh would steal the breath away from all those around him, making Meenah the only person not to hit on him. Fluttershy is timid but her 'were we argueing? I'm sorry." is not akin to a very foreword Maid, but a passive Rogue who steals the rage out of everyone around her, which she does. She is different from Nepeta, as she has no inclination in soul shipping, while Nepeta, Meulin and even Dirk are obsessed with love-lives. Of course, just because it is passive doesn't mean it doesn't effect themselves after a while. Nepeta can lose heart after a while, Roxy can succumb to her void of friends, and Rufioh can lose his spark for heroism. That is why she slips into Rage every so often)

Previous Session:

Celestia - Muse of Light
Luna - Muse of Void
Sombra - Lord of Rage
Discord - Lord of Space
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PickleParfe Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Uh, what is this a crossover of?
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013  Student General Artist
This is My Little Pony and Homestuck!
I'm gonna assume you got the pony part. This is Homestuck: [link] It's a webcomic. It's very bizarre. xD
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PickleParfe Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Oh. Well I'm not a big fan of Homestuck...
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013  Student General Artist
Hehe, that's alright! I think whether you're a fan or not you can still agree that Twilight looks nice in orange? :meow:
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PickleParfe Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yea, the colors match surprisingly well.
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Watch-it1337 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013
Perfect, absolutely perfect :D
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ConstantSoliloquy Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is perfect. Great choices on the god tiers!
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Akumeoi Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Student General Artist
Thanks! And as for the choice of title, you can thank :iconinfinitywhale: for them. :3
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metaLomanic Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013
The light color scheme goes really well with Twilight.
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